220: How Do We Talk to Our Children About Race? With Paris McLean

In this episode, I sit down with Paris McLean – Assistant Head of School for Diversity, Inclusion, and Anti-Racism at Montclair Kimberley Academy, and my old friend – to discuss navigating conversations on race, how we can talk to our children about race, diversity, and equity, and how parents can be mindful about raising their children in diverse and inclusive environments. Paris speaks about his role in education and the foundational themes of his work, his experience growing up biracial, and how parents can use children’s literature as a powerful tool to start conversations. He also discusses the many different facets of diversity, how families can navigate raising children in a predominantly white community, and answers listener questions on explaining privilege, raising biracial children, and more.


Key Takeaway / Points:

  • How we know each other and how Paris has played a role in my and my husband’s lives

  • Paris’s role in education and the themes of his work

  • On how diversity and equity work will never be “over”

  • On Paris’s experience growing up biracial

  • On navigating uncomfortable commentary made by others about biracial children

  • On having conversations about race with children

  • On feeling responsible for your child’s privilege

  • Workshopping an example with my son and talking about race

  • On the power of children’s literature to start conversations at home

  • On the many different facets of diversity

  • How families can navigate raising their children in a predominantly white community

  • Answering listener questions on raising biracial children, explaining privilege, and navigating conversations about race among family


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